tweens

Marvel Movies and Middle School

I’ve written a few times about the sweet spot of childhood. Roughly seven to ten. When they’re old enough to converse and plan and understand things, but still believe in the gentleness of humani… 

Oh, who the hell am I kidding. The second bookend is when they turn into shithead tweenagers.

It’s a few years removed from the Santa Phase. Most people think kids love Santa from the get-go, but most pictures of two-year olds sitting on the old dude’s lap look like Martin Scorsese directing a Stephen King movie. Alexa, show me existential terror.

So the Santa sweet spot really doesn’t hit until four or so. When they’re two and three, they realize after the fact that sitting on old men’s laps begets untold rewards. By the time they hit four, they’re fully vested. And by eight, they’re already skeptical if not outright heretical. My daughter still claimed to believe, at ten, but that’s really only because we’ve all politely entered a don’t ask, don’t tell cone of silence on the subject.

She still expects to get paid for losing teeth, though. Back in my day, that racket ended around tooth number four.

I also don’t think any self-respecting fifth grader in 1985 would even toy with the notion of Santa or the Tooth Fairy or dinosaurs. In fact, I remember that at my elementary school, the sixth graders wrote the “response letters” to the letters the first and second graders had sent “to Santa.”

Whereas today, a school district would be sued just for acknowledging a cultural character known as Santa. Or dinosaurs.

So ironically, while Santa might be lingering longer than he had in the past, the “I won’t watch kid’s things” is happening earlier. 

Unfortunately, my daughter seems to be barreling toward teendom with reckless abandon. Even though I, as a high school teacher, have known what’s coming, I still begrudgingly held on to hope.

Then along came Thunderbolts*.

We weren’t parents who plopped their child in front of shit we like long before the kid could follow what was going on. I tried her on a few Star Wars cartoons, but she didn’t watch the actual movies until she was seven or eight, and so far she’s still only seen the first two. Sure, if I just wanted her to “like” the franchise, I could’ve started her with Ewoks or Jar Jar Binks, but knowing Darth Vader is Luke’s father before watching Star Wars is just wrong on so many levels.

We also might be thrown in jail for not allowing her to watch the Harry Potter movies until after she’s read the books. She’s dallying on Goblet of Fire, so she’s still only seen the first three movies. She damn near fell off the couch while watching an episode of The Middle where Brick mentioned Ron and Hermione as one of the top romantic couples.

But Marvel movies were different.

I’ve read comic books to her since she was damn near in the womb. She knew who Spiderman and Captain America were before she knew who Peppa Pig was.

A funny aside about Peppa Pig. Of all the crap she watched when she was younger, this was the most egregious. I’m sure I opined on it at the time, but holy crap. Teletubbies would’ve been better than Peppa Pig, because at least the Teletubbies don’t really talk. When Bluey first came out, I almost wouldn’t let Daughter watch it because it ticked almost all the same boxes as Peppa Pig: animal families speaking in foreign accents with nine-minute episodes. 

Anyway, Daughter was recently playing with/occupying my niece’s three year old daughter. Said toddler loooooves Peppa Pig, so Daughter watched alongside her.

“Oh my God, Dad,” Daughter says to me on a break. “Do you know how hard it is to sit through a bunch of episodes of Peppa Pig? That show is so stupid.”

Huzzah. I thought “Parents knew what they were talking about all along” didn’t come about till kids got into their thirties.

Unfortunately, that probably means the thing she’ll wait twenties years before reversing course on are Marvel movies.

We painstakingly curated her MCU viewing to line up with her ability to understand and be entertained. After going back and forth a million times, we finally broke the seal by letting her watch Ant-Man. It’s funny, not particularly violent, and the final battle taking place on his daughter’s toy train set would giver her buy in. As an added bonus, we live near San Francisco, so the scenery might speak to her more than New York.

She was meh on it. I don’t remember how old she was, but not old enough to follow the plot. Even the final battle didn’t really whet her whistle, because she hadn’t really tracked on how or why they were fighting . I don’t even think she realized that the giant trains flying at them were the same ones on the train set.

And upon second viewing for myself, I guess the funny stuff revolving around Michael Pena recapping capers in a Drunk History-esque voice over, probably wouldn’t land in a seven year old’s sweet spot. Daughter only identified with Cassie.

But over the next year or so, we dabbled in on some of the others. She liked Thor and the original Avengers movie. She was meh on the Iron Man movies and the first Captain America one. I thought she’d love Guardians of the Galaxy (in fact, I think we tried her on that before Ant-Man) because we have a ton of Rocket and Groot stuff. But she hated it because (again the things I don’t notice when I’m watching as an adult), they start out the movie doing some pretty despicable and violent things. Sure, that’s what makes the redemption arc work, but she didn’t like to see her plushies threatening and beat up people.

This was about the time WandaVision came out, which she loved, so she enjoyed Age of Ultron, and was especially happy that the plot of WandaVision prepared her for the fact that Quicksilver was going to die.

Of course, she mainly only liked the sitcom episodes of WandaVision, not the MCU episodes. Although she begrudgingly became vested in Kat Dennings’s character, who should really be used more.

The one thing I can pinpoint to a year was the first MCU movie she went to the theaters to see, which was the last Spiderman movie. I saw it first and prepped her for Aunt May dying. I thought it would be a good barometer for if she was going to be able to handle Infinity War and Endgame. She did okay with it. Me, not so much. Damn it if that isn’t one of the most painful death scenes in the entirety of the MCU. Marisa Tomei ought to win an Oscar for it. Someone call Jack Palance!

Aunt May’s death was acceptable because by the time she saw that movie in the theater, Daughter knew that the hero’s arc had to have a few low points, in order to heighten the eventual triumph. But she hadn’t seen the last two Avengers yet, so she didn’t know that some movies end with sacrifice. So MJ not remembering Peter probably hit her harder than Aunt May’s death.

But since she hadn’t seen Endgame yet, the second Spiderman was off limits. Sorry, kid, you can’t know how MJ and Peter got together in the first place. You can watch them hint at it in the first movie and forget about it in the third. But the second would tell you that Iron Man is dead, and that’s a no-no.

Even if Iron Man is no longer dead and is now Dr. Doom. Don’t get me started.

So her first MCU movie in the theaters was December, 2021, when she was 7 1/2. Put a pin in that date/age.

Of the movies that have followed that, I think the only other movie I’ve taken her to in the theaters was The Marvels. Partly from parental decisions – don’t really want her seeing her favorite character become an evil zombie in the second Dr. Strange, nor animal torture being a primary storyline of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 – and part of it was the general malaise of Phases IV and V. I’m sure she would’ve been fine with Love and Thunder or Quantumania, but nether seemed destined to drastically improve her appreciation for the genre.

Deadpool & Wolverine might. But if I’m trying to stick to age and maturity appropriateness, I should probably wait another five years. Or look the other way when she watches it at a slumber party, as my generation did with Porkys. 

I thought Thunderbolts* was going to be different. As you can probably tell from its box office: it wasn’t.

It was sold as Marvel’s answer to DC’s Suicide Squad (or was it The Suicide Squad, a separate movie. I honestly don’t know if that’s the one I liked. The one with Starro), featuring a squad of criminals playing heroes, led by a hilarious, mouthy female antihero. I realize Florence Pugh’s Yelena is not in the same stratosphere as Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, but she is still far and away the best new character introduced since maybe Phase II. 

Instead, the movie was more of the drivel we’ve gotten for the past few years. The old knock on Marvel movies was they were just quip, quip, punch. Now they’re intense stare, morose introspection, punch. 

But sure, Robert Downey Jr will fix everything. 

Anyway, when I thought Thunderbolts* would be a toned down version of Suicide Squad, replacing the vulgarities with Marvel’s brand of quips, with Florence Pugh carrying every scene like she did in both Black Widow and Hawkeye, I thought it would be right up Daughter’s alley. Unfortunately, I forgot to calibrate Daughter’s preferred alley up from age ten to age eleven. I forgot that she’s on the cusp of middle school. And middle schoolers, far and wide, are terrible. 

I taught middle school once. Once. As in one year. Right now, my commute is about an hour. I could work closer to where I live if I were willing to teach middle school again. Nope. I’d rather put 3,000 miles a month on my car than deal with those cretins.

The one year I taught, I had finally found a groove, started to establish some rapport, until we came back from spring break. It was a complete shitshow. When I mentioned this to one of the experienced middle school teachers she just shrugged. “Sure. It’s fourth quarter of seventh grade. They’re turning into eighth grade bitches.”

My daughter’s not there, yet. Thankfully. But every time I have to repeat her name three times just to get her to look up from her phone, I know she’s hurtling that direction. Her school district starts middle school in sixth grade. While I think it’s a smart idea, because after six years, she needs a change of scenery and an infusion of new friends, the drawback is an impending three years of middle school hell instead of my own two years’ worth. 

But I sure got a preview when I excitedly asked her if she wanted to go see Thunderbolts*. And no, I didn’t enunciate the asterisk. Maybe that would’ve helped.

Instead, I got a very tepid “Not really.” I tried to up the ante a bit by offering the theater she likes where they serve a full menu. At the age of eight, she would’ve sat through Gandhi to go to the milk shake theater. At eleven, little could sway her.

Her first counter offer was that we leave her home while we go watch a two-hour movie. Might as well shoot for the stars, huh? The most we’ve ever left her alone has been maybe ten minutes while we go get fast food or gas up the car. But she’s already trying on that eternal teenage game of encouraging the parents to leave the house.

(Editor’s note: Obviously, if you’re an official of the State of California, we’ve never left our 11-year old child home alone for ten minutes. And she still rides in a car seat, as (I shit you not) they now want to make law should continue until the child is sixteen fucking years old. I better make it backward facing, just to be safe. Who cares if she’s over five feet tall.)

She continued her one-sided negotiation by requesting we take her to grandma’s. We countered with “We weren’t really asking if you wanted to go. We were telling you we’re going to the movies.”

So mark the end of her “wants to go see Marvel movies in the theater with her loving parents” phase as Thunderbolts*. From late 2021 to early 2025. And that’s likely only because the writers’ strike meant only one movie came out last year. If we measure in terms of actual movies she wanted to see alongside her Marvel-geek of a father, it was a whopping two. Maybe I should’ve taken her to Quantumaniai while she was still in the sweet spot.

And with Thunderbolts* being closer to Eternals than it was Suicide Squad, my chances of dragging her to the Fantastic Four movie are virtually nil. Unless I can get Mr. Fantastic’s time machine.

The one silver lining of this summer’s blockbusters is that she still wanted to see the new Lilo & Stitch.

I better take advantage of it. By the time she’s an eight grade bitch, she’ll want nothing to do with that “baby shit.”

The sweet spot is over. The middle school spot is approaching. 

Whether we’re ready or not.

Tweens and Tech

My daughter recently passed her tenth birthday. 

Welcome to the Tweens!

There are, certainly, some timeless elements of raising a tween. The moodiness, the acting like a sassy teen one moment followed by curling up into a ball bawling over a broken toy. 

And the body odor, which they are only occasionally aware of, and almost never inclined to do anything about.

However, there are additional aspects of raising a kid here in the 2020s that aren’t quite immortal. Back in the 1980s, my mother never had to worry about me messing up her Netflix queue.

In a nutshell, kids need to have tech available to them these days. But kids are also too young to sign up for their own accounts on a lot of said tech. Sure, we can lie on some things, but not as many as you might think. 

Which means we have to sign them in as us. Which… kinda defeats the purpose of not allowing kids to sign up for their own stuff?

We ran into this issue on our recent cruise. Kids under thirteen couldn’t have their own log in on the cruise’s app, so we had to sign her in as me. But I was also signed in as me, so while she or I could text Wife, we couldn’t text each other. 

In addition, the cruise had an area set up for young kids, and it had activities set up for teenagers. For tweens, it had… the ability to check themselves in and out of the kids area. 

I guess they’re called Tweens for more reasons than one. They’re the Taint of childhood. And they smell like it, too.

I mean, you’ve got to be eighteen to enter into a binding contract, right? So thirteen shouldn’t make much difference from ten. If she violates those all-important terms and conditions, they ain’t coming after her whether she’s nine or thirteen or seventeen. 

I’ve known we’re in that Brave New World for a few years. One time I took Daughter to curling. She throws two or three shots then decides she wants a corn dog. I was about to give her a twenty when I remembered they don’t accept cash there. 

I gave her my card, because it’s not like anyone requires signatures anymore. It’s basically the same as when our parents wrote letters saying the liquor store could sell us beer because it was for them. (The 1970s were real, folks!)

I think I might’ve suffered twenty heart attacks in the five minutes she was getting her corn dog. Because Daughter ain’t the best at holding onto things. If I had given her a $20 bill and she set down the change somewhere and walked away, I’m out maybe $15. If she does the same with my debit card, I’m becoming besties with a Nigerian prince 

Last summer, we went to a baseball game in Colorado and were faced with a similar problem. She wanted water. Since there was no way we were letting her to weave in and out of a stadium crowd with our plastic, I went to get her stupid fucking water. What happened while I was standing in line? The Angels hit back-to-back-to-back home runs!

We got her Greenlight, which is basically a debit card that we can pay her chore money into. Anyone who raised a child before 2010 thinks we’re crazy to get plastic for our child, but think long and hard about how little you spend cash.

We still won’t let her go out with it. At some point, she’s going to need to carry it on her own. Keys, too. But she’s not there yet.

When she saves up for something, we give her the card to make that one purchase, then it stays with us. Half the time, we pay for it, then transfer the money back to us. Just like Venmo, which I just checked and, magically, it has a minimum age of thirteen. And since it’s tied to bank accounts and email addresses, it’s not like we can lie about her age, then readjust it in three years. 

I dropped her off for a birthday party at Round Table recently. Here’s one of those time-honored Tween Parent traditions. Most events, you have to play wait-and-see to figure out if it’s a drop-off or a parent-stay event. I would’ve been the only parent staying, aside from the birthday girl’s, so I left.  

Then I remembered she probably needed money, so I stopped by an ATM because I didn’t have any on me. It was for air hockey and the claw machine and such so, even if she took her Greenlight card, it wouldn’t have been useful. I showed back up ten minutes later to give her cash. Then she asked if I could go get change for it, because she didn’t want to have to engage with the cashier.

Ah, Tweens. The activities and opportunities have expanded, but the responsibility has not.

Again, most of these situations would’ve been the same when my parents was raising me during the Reagan administration. Sure, they might not have needed to break a twenty, or to get a fresh twenty, just to get some quarters for video games, but they would’ve gone to get water for me at the ballgame. Or, more likely, a soda because I don’t think they sold bottled water back then. 

The big change is in the technology space. Everything requires apps or accounts that the Tweens cannot own. 

For the second summer in a row, I’ve made Daughter sign up for our library’s summer reading program. Unlike back in ye olden days, when we just totally lied and turned in a piece of paper with a bunch of “Read 30 minutes” boxes checked, it’s now in an app that tracks the minutes. Of course, there’ still no proof she actually is reading between the two times she pushes the button, but at least it provides a much more accurate time count.

The summer program must be tied to a library card. So last year, and again this year, I just signed in as myself and changed the name to her. No biggie, because it’s not like I needed some stupid external motivation to ensure I do some reading. 

Hold on, let me go check the Kindle Summer challenge. 

This year, they turned the quest into a Dungeons & Dragons-ish quest, where you pick a wizard or a faerie or whatnot and the tokens you get for each task are tied to the character. And once you finish one quest, you can restart as another character. Sounds fun.

The parents can play along, too, the hobbit-looking, Brandon-Sanderson-sounding librarian says. That’s not an insult. If I told him he sounded like Brandon Sanderson, he’d probably spontaneously orgasm.

But… she’s on my account. Can I make two people on the same account simultaneously? No. One person per account. So Wife can play along or I can play along, but we can’t have a family-wide competition. Same damn issue as the cruise.

And again, I don;t see the difference between ten and thirteen. If she loses a library book at any point in the next eight years, they ain’t coming after her regardless of the name on the card. 

It finally came to a head when we got new phones. Daughter’s had a hand-me-down for a couple years now. For the majority of that time, she only used it to download mindless games, but over the past year, more of her friends are getting their own phones, so they text each other. Mainly emojis and whatnot. As far as I can tell, most developmental professional types are saying phones are fine for ten-year-olds, social media is not. Hell, social media probably isn’t a good idea for adults, either. As fun as it is to learn how vapid your favorite celebrity is, a world in which we mostly interact with people who we know and understand might not be a bad prescription.

They still aren’t allowed to have phones at school, but she’s heading into her last year of elementary school, after which I’m sure it will be game over. I keep seeing debates about whether phones should be allowed in schools. L.A. Unified just banned them and Herr Kommandant Newsom thought that sounded like a peachy idea for the whole state so he can run more commercials in Florida about how California believes in freedom. 

Kind of an odd battle to be fighting right now. My district is under the impression it’s illegal for us to ban phones, although I can’t find any court cases to that effect. Guessing there’ll be one the first day L.A. Unified actually tries to implement it. Something about the right to communicate. Besides, if schools are giving laptops to every student, taking away their phone isn’t going to create some utopia where they’re all paying attention. I’ve got students watching unedited Game of Thrones episodes, what the hell do I care if he’s texting someone?

Y’know, we used to pass notes in class, too.

So with middle school coming and any number of other reasons, when Wife and I recently upgraded our own phones, we finally brought Daughter’s into this decade. For the most part, it’s been a success. It’s great for car trips and providing some peace and quiet around the house, because I swear if I have to watch another season of Jesse, I might be committed.

She can also start doing front-end negotiations on play dates so the extent of our social secretarying is getting confirmation from the other child’s parents. You’d be surprised how often they have no idea their own child auctioned off their pool and half their refrigerator.

But there’s some snafus, Unlike the library, where she’s using my account, the Amazon account on Daughter’s phone belongs to Wife. You might’ve had heart palpitations knowing a ten-year-old can go hog-wild on Amazon with no guardrails, but Daughter is either a good soul or not very adventurous. I’m sure that will change at some point and we’ll have to lock it down. Maybe give her her own Amazon account and tie it to her Greenlight card. Except, again, there’s probably some legality behind doing that before she’s thirteen or maybe sixteen. I guess we could remove our own plastic from Amazon and have to enter it fresh each time, but Jesus, who wants to do that? Can you even have a pay-as-you-go Amazon account?

But for now, she uses Amazon responsibly. More responsibly than her parents. Yeah, I know I have ten unread books on my Kindle, I’ve just gotta get that other one. They’re offering double Kindle points this weekend! I have no idea what Kindle points are for, but it’s double! 

Daughter, on the other hand, makes wishlists for her birthday and looks for gift ideas for the two of us, even if we’ll be the ones buying it. That goes back as long as there’ve been gifting occasions. I remember picking out things at K-mart get grandma for Christmas, but I sure as shit didn’t pay for them myself. I only had to wrap them, so she’d know it was truly from me.  

Now, what Daughter should have done when she found the perfect gift for Wife was to text it to me. Instead, she put it in the cart. Makes sense, because that’s what she’s done when finding something she wants for herself. We tell her to look up lunchboxes or some Taylor Swift bullshit. She finds the item she wants and puts it in the cart. Then the next time we’re ordering toilet paper or toothpaste (but not Kindle books, because those are, of course, one-click buys), her item is sitting in our cart and we can decide whether to add it or save it for later.

Same way it worked at K-mart in 1985.

So she saw a shirt that she thought would be great for her mom’s birthday. And she put it in the cart. Of her mom’s Amazon account. 

Then, when Wife said she was going to order something from Amazon, Daughter piped up with that eternal cry of the Tween and beyond: “Don’t look in there!”

There’s got to be a better way.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to send some account info to my Nigerian friend. He swears he’s going to send me some tasteful nudes of Queen Victoria.