Looks like the list of Rock n’ Roll Hall o’ Fame nominees is out for this year.
Seeing as the first qualification to get on the list is to have released your first album 25 years earlier, the list usually works as a wake-up call to just how old I’m getting. A few years ago, Eminem made the list and my first thought was, “How is that possible? He’s still one of those newfangled rappers. Defining what rap will be like in the upcoming century. Holy shit, is the century not new anymore?”
This year, none of the nominees provided quite the AARP-sponsored wake-up call that some of the previous lists did.
As far as I can tell, there aren’t any who actually released their first album in 2000, but the two that more or less jibe with the “Hit the Scene in 2000” are OutKast and White Stripes.
If you were to ask me when either band was big, I’d probably guess around 2000. When you add in the fact that neither band lasted long after their initial stardom, it’s safe to assume that if you hear an OutKast song or a White Stripes song, your memories are firmly planted in W’s first term as president.
Although, if you had asked me how many years came between Eminem and OutKast, I would’ve guessed five to ten years instead of the, in reality, two. This obviously doesn’t fit my earlier belief that Eminem’s career couldn’t have been so “recent.” The thing is: I always knew Eminem hit the scene in 1998. My fuzziness was on how far back in the rearview the year 1998, not Eminem himself, was.
As for the White Stripeswould anyone question they’ve been around for at least 25 years? Hasn’t “Seven Nation Army” been on constant loop at every sporting event since at least then? Be honest, if I told you that the 1992 Chicago Bulls came on the court to that song, nobody would question it. I literally thought to myself that it was Trevor Hoffman’s entrance music, but turns out that was “Enter Sandman,” by Metallica. Some songs just equal impending doom to one’s sporting adversaries.
At my daughter’s volleyball tournaments, the vast majority of the teams have taken to singing the famous “Seven Nations Army” riff while coming to their timeout huddle. When their coach has called the timeout, meaning they’re not playing well, it’s subdued. Some teams don’t do it at all. But, boy howdy, when the other team calls one because your team just went on a 7-2 run or something, they’re jumping up and spinning around as they’re singing it.
I don’t know if she or they even know which song it comes from. They just know that “Woh, woh-wuh-oh, wuh-whooooa Oooooohhhhh” is a bad-ass bass riff that was meant for sports.
Like “Smoke on the Water” was in my day. Or when Beavis and Butthead sang the riff from “Iron Man.” The riff is bigger than the song.
Yes kids, at one point, Iron Man brought to mind Black Sabbath, not Robert Downey, Jr.
So sorry, neither of the “new” bands vying for Hall of Fame induction this year strike me as too new. Both feel like they’ve earned their oldness. Whether or not either are truly HOF-worthy isn’t for me to decide. I could make an argument that both are legendary and could make an argument that both are one-hit wonders. Does Roger Maris belong in the baseball Hall of Fame? Probably not. Would it bother me if he was? Not in the slightest.
Harold Baines being in the Baseball Hall does bother me some.
Where this year’s Rock HOF grew interesting this year wasn’t the 25 year olds new kids on the block, but some of the others on the list.
Honestly, I wasn’t entirely sure there was an addendum list. Most years there’s enough noobs that they’re the only ones who get the headlines. But did you know there are bands that, much like in the baseball Hall of Fame, stay on the ballot if they don’t get enough votes? I sure didn’t.
To be honest, I don’t know if they stay on the ballot in the exact same way as baseball. In baseball, if you get above 5%, but less than 75%, of the vote, your name will appear on the next ballot. Up to a maximum of ten years. If you can’t get 75% after ten years, you’re done.
Rock n’ Roll doesn’t seem quite so structured, in that a number of artists will appear on one ballot, not get enough votes, then skip a year or two.
Regardless, let’s take a look at some of the returning faces. Oasis, Mariah Carey, and Soundgarden make perfect sense. They were big in the 1990s, so it would make sense that they linger around. Mariah Carey’s career starts earlier than the other two, and in all honesty, I’m surprised she didn’t make the cut on her Christmas song, alone. Or maybe the Christmas song is the only reason she’s still being considered. “Fantasy” doesn’t have quite the legs of “Seven Nation Army.” The main source of legs for Mariah Carey is the Santa outfit she wore in the video.
The other two returnees are New Order and Cyndi Lauper. Again, I won’t opine on either of their merits, or lack thereof, but I kinda think that nobody will have changed their mind on either of those in the past year, right? I mean, if somebody’s going to say, “OMG, did you realize that the woman who sang ‘Girls Just Wanna Have Fun?” ALSO sang “Time After Time? What range!” probably shouldn’t be given the power to vote for the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame.
However, my true confusion in this regard is the other “First Timers” on the ballot. I thought once your career hit 25, you were put on the ballot. That’s how it’s done in baseball, although they use five years retired after a ten-year career as the minimum requirement. However, there are seven first timers on this year’s Rock n Roll ballot whose careers are substantially older than OutKast.
The first one that caught my eye was Phish. When I first saw them, I nodded along. Much like Eminem, Phish seems to have been around about 25 years. After all, I remember seeing them at a festival my freshman year of college and that couldn’t have been more than… wait a minute!
That was back in 1993, which by my math, is more than 25 years ago. Not that most Phish fans can stay sober enough to count that much. I was going to say “count that high,” but Phish fans are great at doing thing super high. In fact, they probably meant to add Phish to the Hall of Fame ten years ago, just as soon as they were done with this bong hit. Then all of a sudden it was 2025.
I shouldn’t trash them. Joe Cocker’s also a first-timer. His cover of a Beatles song was the theme song of a 1980s tv show about the 1960s.
When I first saw Joe Cocker, I thought, “Oh right, because he just died recently.” Then I looked it up. He died in 2014. Why the hell does time keep moving?
Black Crowes are also on the first timers list. I think their careers started around the same time as Phish. Both artists also bring up the key question of what makes a Hall of Famer. How long do you have to be famous before you’re truly famous? And is it more important to be super important to a small group of fans or have one or two universally known songs? I would assume quite a few people have no idea who Phish is. Everyone knows “Macarena.”
In baseball, they favor longevity over flash. That’s why Maris, who broke the single-season HR record, wasn’t ever really considered. He wasn’t exactly a flash in the pan – for a three-year span, he was as solid as it gets. But his entire career was only eleven years, and most of those years were forgettable.
Mark McGwire also was never going to be a Hall of Famer, even if they weren’t punishing steroid users. He was a stud as a rookie and might have single-handedly (or double-handedly with Sammy Sosa) saved baseball after the 1994 strike. The only person more “famous” than Mark McGwire in 1998 was probably Monica Lewinski.
But the middle of McGwire’s career was injury-ridled. And if it weren’t for the ‘roids, he would’ve been out of baseball by the time those magical seasons captivated the nation.
Still more of a HOFer than Baines, in my opinion, who only got in because he played forever. As a mediocre designated hitter. Yet Jim Edmonds, who hit more home runs in 3,000 fewer at-bats while playing stellar defense, doesn’t even get enough votes to make it to a second ballot.
Sorry, we were talking about music, right?
After Phish and Black Crowes, the first-timers get even crazier. Billy Idol? Bad Company?
Baseball fans often joke about someone all of a sudden getting better ten years after they retired. Andruw Jones, another centerfielder with stats not as good as Jim Edmonds, got 7% of the vote his first year on the ballot. By his fourth year of eligibility, he was up to 33% and in this year’s voting, he’s up to 66. He’s got two years of eligibility left and many think he’ll get there. But again, he’s done absolutely nothing to add to his resume in the past eight years. His career stats are the same as the always were, but fifty-nine percent of voters have changed their mind on whether or not those stats are worthy.
Musicians are a little different because they can still make music after their initial eligibility period. Billy Idol, for instance, released a single a few years ago. It was good. But it was no “Rebel Yell” or “Eyes Without a Face” or “Dancing with Myself.” If those first three didn’t convince someone he’s a Hall of Famer, then “Bitter Taste” ain’t gonna win them over.
And now that I looked it up, “Bitter Taste” came out in 2021, so it’s even less likely it affected his credentials in the past 365 days. The only thing I can put a finger on is that he’s touring with Joan Jett this year. So maybe it was just a matter of being reminded he existed.
Bad Company makes even less sense. They’ve been around a decade longer than Billy Idol. Shit, I was playing “Feel Like Making Love” on my acoustic guitar to woo girls in the dorm rooms back before I even saw Phish in concert. It’s a simple song to learn. Basic three-chord progression. Probably not indicative of the Hall of Fame. Unless they’re going to put them in a special wing with Wang Chung as bands who shamelessly write songs featuring the name of the band.
I did see that they officially broke up/stopped touring in 2023 due to health concerns. I guess that was enough to get them in the rotation. Although according to Wikipedia, they’ve gone their separate ways a couple times before. Guess this was the one that actually got the attention.
Their last album, by the way, was released in 1996.
There’s one more crazy nomination I’ve intentionally saved for last. If someone whose heyday was the 1980s and a band from the 1970s doesn’t give you enough of a HOF WTF, how about someone from the 1950s? Because the last “new” nominee is none other than Chubby Checker.
Yes, Chubby Checker of “The Twist.” And…um… “Let’s Twist Again.” And “Limbo rock,” going off the grid for the final installment of the trilogy like Back to the Future.
Those last two songs hit in 1962. Since then, Chubby Checker’s done pretty much nothing new or noteworthy.
In his defense, he might be the last of the true Rock n’ Rollers. When the Beatles hit, Rock dropped the n’ Roll suffix. So Bad Company and Billy Idol shouldn’t even be eligible.
Unlike the two aforemtioneds, I can’t find jack shit Chubby Checker has done in the past year to trigger his all of a sudden nomination. Looks like he once protested outside the Hall of Fame because he felt he was being overlooked. That was back in 2002, so obviously it was a hugely influential protest. They got right on that shit! After only a couple decades. If they had waited two more years, his protest would’ve been eligible for its own inclusion in the Hall of Fame.
Alongside other new 2002 bands like Beyonce, Maroon 5, and Avril Lavigne.
And, I don’t know, Katrina & the Waves?







